I am pretty sure we are dealing with a Parasite, gill flukes, but it is tough to be sure. When fish are bunched together at the wholesalers, importers and pet shops this little bug has a way of spreading. Use any medication for external parasites. If you cant get access to the Fluebenol 5% then I would go with Formaldahyde as a dip or as along bath. try to isolate them in a bare bottom tank and do not feed them very much if anything. Keep the aeriation high but not so strong that they cant swim. Also give them some caves for security. Try visiting some discus web sites because gill flukes is a common bug with them. Try WWW.fishlinkcentral.com as a starting point. good luck and let me know how it goes. Also gill flukes is a slow killer so you may have some time. Another common symptom is they will try to scrach themselves on rocks and other decorations in the tank. Good luck! P.S. I am not sure what the main ingrediant is in trisulfa b? But if it is for external parasites then! ! give it a try. David Sanchez - ---Amos@grolen.com wrote: > > > > > David, > > Thank you for the response, yours was the only one I received.. I have > lost a Ram to his already and now I have the cacatuoids and another ram > that have the problem. I am affraid that I can't wait as long as it > would take for the mail order to get here, I bought some Trisulfur b > Mardel yesterday, do you think this will help? and Do you think it is > still gill flukes if the others are getting it? I did a partial water > change again yesterday before I medicated, to see if it would help. I > really don't want to lose all of my fish. I have set up a 30 gal. tank > but it's been running for only about 3 days now, should i move some of > these fish in there? I really appreciate your input. Thanks > Diane > > AP>Keep a close watch on the other fish to see if they develope any > AP>similer sighns. At first it may sound like gill flukes, if that in > AP>fact is the case then i reccomend Fluebenol 5% I am at work and do not > AP>have the dosage with me but it will work the best and is the most > AP>gentle on the fish. Stuff like formaldahyde is very strong and may > AP>kill a small fish like an Apisto. Get a copy of the TFH book Hand Book > AP>Of Fish Diseases. It has Info on Fluebenol 5% it will kill both > AP>strains of flukes and info can be found in this book. You can find > AP>this drug from FTFFA mail order. I will e-mail you the further info > AP>when i get home. > > AP>David Sanchez > > > > AP>---Amos@grolen.com wrote: > AP>> > AP>> Hello everyone, > AP>> > AP>> I have a pair of Cacatuoids, and I have noticed that the male is > AP>> having a breathing problem. His gills are moving faster than normal, i > AP>> have noticed this since the weekend. I did a partial water change, > AP>that > AP>> didn't help. The PH 6.4, Ammonia 0, nitrites 0, There is one other > AP>fish > AP>> doing the same a Columbian Ram, He is still holding on. The fishes > AP>> color and scales are normal but the fish stay at the bottom. they have > AP>> no visible signs of illness other than this. What can I do? What am I > AP>> doing wrong? This tank has been set up since December. > AP>> Thank You > AP>> Diane > AP>> > AP>> > AP>> > AP>------------------------------------------------------------------------- > AP>> Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List > AP>Archives"! > AP>> > > AP>_________________________________________________________ > AP>DO YOU YAHOO!? > AP>Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > > > AP>------------------------------------------------------------------------- > AP>Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives" > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > <hr size=1><b>DO YOU YAHOO!?</b><br>Get your free @yahoo.com address at <a href="http://mail.yahoo.com">Yahoo! Mail</a>.<br>