David, Thank you for the response, yours was the only one I received.. I have lost a Ram to his already and now I have the cacatuoids and another ram that have the problem. I am affraid that I can't wait as long as it would take for the mail order to get here, I bought some Trisulfur b Mardel yesterday, do you think this will help? and Do you think it is still gill flukes if the others are getting it? I did a partial water change again yesterday before I medicated, to see if it would help. I really don't want to lose all of my fish. I have set up a 30 gal. tank but it's been running for only about 3 days now, should i move some of these fish in there? I really appreciate your input. Thanks Diane AP>Keep a close watch on the other fish to see if they develope any AP>similer sighns. At first it may sound like gill flukes, if that in AP>fact is the case then i reccomend Fluebenol 5% I am at work and do not AP>have the dosage with me but it will work the best and is the most AP>gentle on the fish. Stuff like formaldahyde is very strong and may AP>kill a small fish like an Apisto. Get a copy of the TFH book Hand Book AP>Of Fish Diseases. It has Info on Fluebenol 5% it will kill both AP>strains of flukes and info can be found in this book. You can find AP>this drug from FTFFA mail order. I will e-mail you the further info AP>when i get home. AP>David Sanchez AP>---Amos@grolen.com wrote: AP>> AP>> Hello everyone, AP>> AP>> I have a pair of Cacatuoids, and I have noticed that the male is AP>> having a breathing problem. His gills are moving faster than normal, i AP>> have noticed this since the weekend. I did a partial water change, AP>that AP>> didn't help. The PH 6.4, Ammonia 0, nitrites 0, There is one other AP>fish AP>> doing the same a Columbian Ram, He is still holding on. The fishes AP>> color and scales are normal but the fish stay at the bottom. they have AP>> no visible signs of illness other than this. What can I do? What am I AP>> doing wrong? This tank has been set up since December. AP>> Thank You AP>> Diane AP>> AP>> AP>> AP>------------------------------------------------------------------------- AP>> Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List AP>Archives"! AP>> AP>_________________________________________________________ AP>DO YOU YAHOO!? AP>Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com AP>------------------------------------------------------------------------- AP>Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"