Hi Kathy, hi everybody, Kathy i would really like to get Mike's spawning report on A.gibbiceps. Thank you in advance. That formerly mentioned diagonal-stripes-thing was it to make me think it's gibbiceps. I think i've had a single male before (10 yrs ago) that grew out to more than 3'' and lived for nearly 2 years in one of my tanks - they seem to be rare. This time i was luckier than before to be able to pick up 3 of these guys - hope there is really a female amongst them. I'll keep you updated. First thing to do is lower pH and hardness step by step. Thomas Kathryn Olson wrote: > THomas, > > I picked up some stray gibbiceps the same way. Mike Jacobs did a nice post a few months back on spawning them. I have it archived somewhere, if you need it just ask. > > Kathy