Andrew writes: << I live in an area that has alkaline water and have been struggling to get my pH, at >least, to a point where apistos might consider breeding. I put peat in the filter cartridge >(whisper mini) and added blackwater tonic but can't get my pH down past 6.8 - 7.0. <snip>> > Should I be concerned about using chemical additives to drop pH? Is there a particular >additive that works better than others? How about more "natural" tricks that don't cost >an arm and a leg? You can find some information on the Krib (http://www.cco.caltech.edu/~aquaria/Krib/). First, before you can effectively lower pH, you need to reduce alkalinity. This is caused primarily by hardness. Reduce the hardness and then you can get a lower pH. And a lower hardness is also good for the Apistos. If you have large numbers of tanks, reverse osmosis or deionization is practical. I have only a few, and use "Tank Soft" by Mardel. I find this is much more effective than black water tonic or "Waters of the World". I can bring my hardness down to 60 ppm. Then I reduce pH with Aquarium Phamaceuticals' "pH Down" (white dropper bottle, yellow label). This is the only product that I am sure has no phosphates. I also have begun using peat filtering. I put peat in the toe of a nylon, tie it off, and stick it in a box filter. This has encouraged some pairs to spawn that I could not get any response out of before. >Is the change in behavior related to the change in water conditions? >> Yep. They liked the hardness, pH and tannins on the larger planted tank. Bob Dixon