>> If so, >> when should I remove him ? > >I personally wouldn't. I'd add another male apisto smaller than him to >reinforce >his territorial drive. Another female, if available, Mamoré Blue wouldn't >hurt >either. 3 out of 3 times that I have had an apisto pair (agassizzi, sp. Rotpunkt and sp. Sunset (or the new unspellable by me name)) that wouldn't spawn, I added a younger male (leaving the other male in too) and the new male spawned with the female. This seems to go against what most people would advise but it's working for me! -Doug Brown debrown@kodak.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@majordomo.pobox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@majordomo.pobox.com. Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!