As for the male trifasciata pictured on my site, I think it has a bit of an arched back because it is getting old--so it appears a bit more deeper bodied than the other male I have. These adults are wild-caught, and apparently the blue is quite prominent in them...similar to the way blue is prominent in F0 borelli, but diminish throughout generations. I do not know how faithfully the offspring show the blue as I sell them before they reach adults. (BTW, I will sell 1/2-inch-plus fry for $3 each, plus shipping.) The diagonal line (belly) is usually present, but not obvious in the picture. The diagonal line is a typical (unique?) feature for trifasciata. Also typical are the red front dorsal spikes (also present in norberti, juruensis, et. al.). As Mike Wise noted a couple months ago, the fishes lumped as trifasciata come from three isolated regions/river systems. Each group (subspecies) is visually distinct from the others. So we probably have different subspecies of trifasciata. I posted (temporarily) a picture of the other male. It's not a crisp shot, but you can see the pores in front of its eye. http://www.spacestar.net/users/carey/fishroom/species/trifasciata_7_.jpg --Randy Doug Brown wrote: > Thanks for posting all those ACA and other fish photos! I really enjoy > checking them out. > > I noticed that your photo of the male trifasciata looks a lot different > than my male does. Mine has no coloration on the dorsal fins (yours seems > to have some red?) and a wide very black lateral stripe that is always > apparent. I'll be working on another series of photos soon, but in the > meantime does this sound a lot different than yours? > > -Doug Brown > debrown@kodak.com > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@majordomo.pobox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@majordomo.pobox.com. Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!