I read many of the messages that were kicking around in the last few weeks about leaf litter and decided to try some oak leaves in a tank with a pair of wild-caught A. bitaeniatum "Tefe" that never seemed to get comfortable in captivity. Unfortunately, I don't remember seeing any instructions/suggestions on preparing the leaves for the aquarium. So far what I have done (by the time most of you get this message) is that I have collected a shopping bag's worth of oak leaves from a nearby park. I chose leaves that were attached to branches that had fallen off the tree for whatever reason because it made it a lot easier to identify a large number a leaves instead of picking through individual leaves in the refuse of a diverse forest area. Also, I chose leaves that had been dead long enough to turn brown and crispy. I then boiled the leaves in a large pot for ten minutes. The result is that the leaves have become somewhat limp and the water looks and smells like strong tea. Here's where I would like some suggestions. I'm going to put the water that was boiled with the leaves into the new tank for the fish. I had boiled peat at one point and had good results from the water off of the peat. Also, I wanted to be sure that any organisms on the leaves was killed, fungus and bacteria in particular. Is this the "right" thing to do? I'm wondering if perhaps there are any toxins released by oak leaves when boiled or some other potentially catostrophic effect that I don't know about. Obviously I'm not going to put any valuable fish (apistos) into the new tank before I get a little feedback and see how the four red-eye tetras fare. How do others on the list prepare leaves for use in aquaria? Thanks much. Andrew Blumhagen ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@majordomo.pobox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@majordomo.pobox.com. Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!