>> Aaah, come on Roger, if you put in some pH Vital in acidic water it >> converts it into a humic acid found in peat moss which has the side >> affect of having plants grow and apistos breeding like mad. > > Is this a valid statement, or advertizing hype? If it's true, where do > I get some? Does humic acid reduce hardness, or is it the tannins that > do that? The ph Vital was a shot at the "Vital" line of products which I believe to be snake oil. The latter is not actually humic acid, but it is the hormone gonadotropine which causes fish to spawn and it is present in peat moss. Cheers, Matthew ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@majordomo.pobox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@majordomo.pobox.com. Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!