I have a collection of fish from the ACA which were supposed to be "uapesi" but turned out to be 3 male iniridae, a male agassizii, and a female which I assume to be of one of these two species. The female has yellowed up and seems to be guarding something (probably eggs as I see no fry moving) in the roots on the back side of some Java Fern. I think the female is iniridae, but I'm not sure. I have seen only a few pictures of the females of either species. The female sports a prominent side spot on top of a distinct-but-not-bold lateral band. This coincides with a picture of iniridae in the Aqualog, but I don't have enough female photos of agassizii to know if/how those females differ by markings. Furthermore, the pH is just below 4. I am assuming that iniridae is much more apt to spawn in this low of pH than is agassizii. (Mayland/Bork claim a need for a pH below 5.0 to get iniridae eggs to hatch.) So I believe the female is iniridae, but does anyone have any insights on distinguishing the females of these two species? --Randy ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@majordomo.pobox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@majordomo.pobox.com. Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!