Hi, I have just bought three apistos labelled as A.pertensis in my LFS. I believe though after consulting the dwarf books that they are A. sp "four stripes" since there are clearly visible four rows of dots below the lateral line. Is this fish still undescribes or does it now have a true name. I picked out what I hope is two females and one male but as they are small I'm not so sure. Does anyone have any pointers on how to sex these fish as they seem to have less sexual dimorphism than most apistos. The most dominant fish regularly takes on a yellow colour so I'm sure it is female. Any tips on best water conditions would also be appreciated, at present they are in pH6.5 temp 78f. Thanks, Ken. ps these fish were very inexpensive only 2.25UKP ~3.5USD each. ***************************** Ken Laidlaw UK Astronomy Technology Centre Royal Observatory, Edinburgh Web: http://www.roe.ac.uk ***************************** ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@majordomo.pobox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@majordomo.pobox.com. Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!