On my 75 I use 2cups sugar, 2liter H2O and 1-2 gr. dry bakers yeast. I think that this is alittle low, I could probably use 4liters on the tank. I find that the same amount on a 30gal, for example, is a bit much. (CO2 levels rise too high on the first couple of days.) I alieviate this by building in home made air line valves that alow a kind of primative bubble counter. Anyhow on the 75 there has never been a problem. The KH had been around 3 and I haven't observed any major pH swings with this level. I renew the bottle every two-three weeks. This is pretty standard I think, and it seems to work. Granted I am sure that the yeast would be happier with more than just sugar, but it works. Oh, I also insert the CO2 outlet into the filter to allow maximum absorbtion. I've also tried to build little difusers for the CO2 without much success. hope my rambling helps a bit. --tarah ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@majordomo.pobox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@majordomo.pobox.com. Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!