I'm so happy, my wild nijsseni pair spawned today, it was just a question of time, so now I'm almsot sure that they are nijsseni and not pandurini, I took some photos hope that they will be developed well. Straight RO, two 50% water changes after 2 weeks helped this, I'm sure. I'm also sure that they spawned because I left them on their own, I just went to see them once a day for 5 minutes not more, I didn't bother and they spawned. GREAT Thanks you everybody Bye Simone Vicini (svicini@lcnet.it) ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@majordomo.pobox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@majordomo.pobox.com. Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!