Jason, I have had success with this species from wild caught and and presently from F1 pair. Temp 79F pH 6.-6.5 Tank 12in x 12in x 12in. Double sponge filter. Java moss and fern, bogwood. Three small inverted clay pots with drainage holes enlarged. I have fry still in this tank at the age of 4 weeks, with parents. I noticed this afternoon that the female is about to spawn again. I intend tomorrow while carrying out the water change removing the current fry to their own tank. I feed the adults frozen bloodworm, whiteworms, tetra prima, adult live b.s. Doesn't seem that much different from what you are doing, just be patient. Helen >Has anyone obtained fry from this fish? >What were the parameters? >I think mine have spawned several times ( the female changed colour and >disappeared for a couple of days), but nothing seems to come of it. >pH 6, 82*, 30ppm. I feed blackworms, bbs and bloodworms. >Any hints? >Thanks >Jason ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@majordomo.pobox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@majordomo.pobox.com. Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!