I have mentioned before on this list that I totally disapprove of artificially hatching cichlid spawns. In five years my cichlids have successfully reared their own fry, 59 species large and small with no intervention from myself. Both parents remaining in the tank. I have never had either male or female killing their partner. Only on one occasion I had to remove the male, that was with Nannacara anomala, the female was such a devoted mother she almost killed the male when she appeared with the fry. He lived to tell the tale. If I have a species that do not have successful spawnings I pass them onto another hobbyist who have had success with them in the past. I would never even consider removing a spawn to artificially hatch. I apologise for going on a bit but battery farming is not an option for my cichlids anyway. Helen >You may be about to start the debate about leaving the >parents with the eggs and to let them raise them as >cichlids do naturally. This for me is the main enjoyment >that can be gained from keeping cichlids. >Ken. > >> Hello all >> It's been my experience that I have a hard time artificially hatching >> ram eggs. I don't have this problem with anyother of the dwarf >> cichlids I keep. What I've been successful with, is leaving the male >> with the eggs . I remove the female as she tends to eat the eggs or >> fry. When the eggs become wigglers I remove the male from the tank as >> well. Once the eggs hatch and become wigglers the hard part for me >> over. They will become free swimming in a few days and then I start >> feeding microworms and newly hatched brine shrimp to the tank. What >> your water quality as the fry are sensitive for the first couple of >> weeks. Good luck with them! >> >> John Wubbolt >> Tupper Lake NY ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@majordomo.pobox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@majordomo.pobox.com. Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!