Valley pets in Colorado Springs has a few tanks with Hawaiian black beach sand in them. I don't know if they sell it but they may be able to tell you where they got it. There number is 719-475-9661 Walter McCree USA.Net wmccree@usa.net -----Original Message----- From: Mike & Diane Wise <apistowise@bewellnet.com> To: apisto@majordomo.pobox.com <apisto@majordomo.pobox.com> Date: Thursday, January 28, 1999 1:28 PM Subject: Re: ph, gravel, and filters >I use a sand-blasting sand called Tex-Blast. See, something good comes from >Texas! (No, no, bad - bad Colorado boy - naughty, naughty!). It's very uniform in >size (1 - 1.5 mm). My apistos can mouth it easily and it's still easy to clean >with a gravel cleaner. It doesn't take forever to settle like play sand. It also >has very good porosity so I don't get dead areas in the lower layers like finer >sand. I've checked it for carbonate grains but don't find any - mostly quartz, >chert, and feldspars. It's an over all tan color. I wish it was darker but it's >acceptable. > >Anyone out there got any Hawaiian black beach sand? > >Mike Wise > >David Sanchez wrote: > >> I have been using childrens play sand in my Apisto tanks for 10 years >> now and I've never had any problems. In fact, the reason I started >> using sand was because it became very apparent to me that most gravel >> available (at the time) was too large and the fish weren't able to dig >> and sift through the sand like is their natural behavior. Many of the >> old litrature on dwarfs in fact mentions sand as a substrate! In my >> estimation i believe sand to be a very good choice for the husbandry >> of Apisto's. >> Dave >> >> ---IDMiamiBob@aol.com wrote: >> > >> > In a message dated 1/28/99 2:20:44 AM Mountain Standard Time, >> > K.Laidlaw@roe.ac.uk writes: >> > >> > > I use childrens play sand in my tanks. This is available >> > > in toy stores very cheaply. 20kg cost only 3UKP (~5USD). >> > > It needs very thorough rinsing but after that looks good in >> > > the aquarium and perfect for the small mouths of Apistos. >> > > They like to chew it up and sift it through their gills in >> > > search of food. >> > >> > I've heard of sand getting stucki n the jaws of Apistos, leaving >> them unable >> > to close their mouths. I would be hesitant to use it. >> > >> > Bob Dixon >> > >> > >> > >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> > This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@majordomo.pobox.com. >> > For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, >> > email apisto-request@majordomo.pobox.com. >> > Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List >> Archives"! >> > >> >> _________________________________________________________ >> DO YOU YAHOO!? >> Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@majordomo.pobox.com. >> For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, >> email apisto-request@majordomo.pobox.com. >> Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"! > > > > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------- >This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@majordomo.pobox.com. >For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, >email apisto-request@majordomo.pobox.com. >Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"! ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@majordomo.pobox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@majordomo.pobox.com. Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!