I work with two locations of P. Taeniatus ( Moliwe and Kienke ) My experience with this fish is that it does best in pairs. Recently I tried using a trio of Kienke to spawn and when there was a nice spawn of about 40 or so fry that were free swimming they immediately become lunch for someone inside of a day when out swimming about. When i use pairs I never have this problem with either location. This is just my opinion but too many fish in the tank leads to bad results. John ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@majordomo.pobox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@majordomo.pobox.com. Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!