Hi, I must speak in defence of incandescent lights for apistos. For fish that love dark tanks, Cryptocoryne and Anubias are great plants. Crypts especially love incandescents, so judicious use of them is a good idea. I often supply my fluorescent lit tanks with plants from the good old incandescent tanks. My last slate bottomed iron frame tank broke last week though... -Gary ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@majordomo.pobox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@majordomo.pobox.com. Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!