Dwarf Pikes that have made their way into the US, other than the usual three are: 1) Crenicichla sp. Xingu dwarf - the smallest known pikes, grown at 2 inches. 2) C. sp Xingu dwarf II - recently exported by Marco to New Jersey and eventually wound up at That Fish Place in Lancaster, PA. Those of you in Amish country may want to visit this place - it's huge. 3) C. sp. Maici Mirim - the females of these species have a thick wine red dorsal fin band. 4) C. urosema by a few guys who went to Rio Tapajos about 4 years ago but is no longer being kept. A semi-dwarf pike C. sp. "Bocon" from the Rio Inirida system made it into the states and I was able to purchase them in Sacramento, Calif. at Capitol Aquarium. These get to 4 or 5 inches. They were labeled as "dwarf pikes" but I think of them as a bridge species to much larger Spangled pikes of the saxatilis group. For the most part, Joel is right - the three he menioned are the ones you usually see. The Other Dwarf pikes of the genus Teleocichla are also becoming available. I've seen 3 species in the country. Vinny kutty@earthlink.net http://www.geocities.com/NapaValley/5491/ >As far as which dwarf they are, I would be surprised if they are anything >but C. regani, if they are a dwarf. As far as I am aware, there are only >three dwarfs available in the US: C. compressiceps, C. regani, and C. >notopthalmus. The first is easy to id, the last is in very few hands and >has had limited spawns, but if you get regani going they will put you awash >in fry, so they are becoming pretty easy to locate. If there are other >species they are extremely limited. There was a very good article in >Cichlid News a month or two ago on C. regani. > >Joel WasDyke ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@majordomo.pobox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@majordomo.pobox.com. Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!