When looking for the true "flying fox", crossocheilus siamensis, look for the ones with the dark lateral line that extends through the caudil fin. Sometimes the young ones are hard to ditinguish. They will get quite large, I have 2 in a 75 gal that the lighter built one is 5" and the heavy bodied one is 6". I started out with 4 and they fought so much that I had to separate down to these which I think are a pair. They did eat algae for some time, but now prefer the regular fish fare in the tank. The best algae eaters that I have found are some para-ottos that I got from Julio Melgal. They are at it ALL the time. MikeD ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@majordomo.pobox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@majordomo.pobox.com. Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!