I will second this motion- a couple of years ago when I was just starting on this aquaria kick, the LFS people had me buying all sorts of crap- eventually after lurking on a couple of fish lists I figured out that the best policy is to minimize the tampering with my water. Cory >Alec, you are going to have to learn to stop throwing chemicals in your tanks ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@majordomo.pobox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@majordomo.pobox.com. Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!