> >In my prior post i gave expected GH and KH from your DI/tap mix. But David >has made a valid point here. I made the assumption you were using a quality >KATI/ANI, two-stage DI unit. If you are only using a positive ion >exchange/removal system, it may actually be the cause of you pH increases. > >Bob Dixon I am using a DI unit that removes both positive and negative ions. It is not something that exchanges Ca and Mg for Na or anything like that. BTW if you measure the Tetra Black Water extract, you will find that it contains phosphate. If the amount of light you are providing the tank is relatively low then there is no problem. However, when the tank is getting close to 3 watts per gallon, amazing things happen. I didn't have a problem with this product or Mardel's WOW until I added more light to the aquarium. Unfortunately, I cannot keep SAEs in the smaller tanks. The four I have in the 120 are doing a marvelous job at keeping algae under control. Some algae is fine. But there are limits. When it takes over everything and the plants become unrecognizable, then it's a major problem. I think this is a time-limited problem. I just have to do enough water changes. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@majordomo.pobox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@majordomo.pobox.com. Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!