Howdy, Well, I took my first serious plunge into South American dwarf cichlids this weekend. (I've kept and bred the mid-sized S.A. cichlids such as festivum, severum, angels, and a few others for a dozen or so years) I bought a trio of Apistogramma panduro and five Dicrossus filamentosa. When I got them home I noticed that three neons had hitched along in the Dicrossus bag, a little bonus. So now I'm eleven fish richer and twenty bucks poorer (he didn't charge for the neons, didn't even notice them maybe)... I found quite a bit on the Dicrossus, but the only thing on the panduro was what was on the "Krib" web page; a discussion about the difference between panduro and nijsseni, and a nice little article by Dave Sanford on the Seattle Aquarium Society page (link from the "Krib"). So, I figure from what I've read that the panduro are a black water species as are the filamentosa. My water comes out of the tap fairly soft; has tested as low as 20ppm/1.1dH, but recently tests around 50ppm/2.8dH. My local water utility, the MWRA, has been trying to add some buffer to the water to "make it less corrosive." My pH is in the high 6 range, mostly 6.8. So I'm wondering if I should be doing something to my water, such as filtering with peat. I picked up some stuff at a gardening store called "Country Cottage Sphagnum Peat Moss" which it claims is "A premium grade sphagnum peat moss imported from Canada." My wife is a gardener and was going to use this to start her seeds for the garden, but I'm wondering if this is the same stuff that people are using for their aquaria. What I was thinking of doing was getting a 30-50 gallon container and filling it with water and peat with a pump for circulation. Let it soak for a week, then use it to refill after my water changes. Maybe this would provide a gradual enough shift in pH and produce a better water quality for my fish. Any comments? How much peat would do the trick for this size container? I've got them in a 30 gallon tank now (the common 36" kind), they're all sub-adult size right now, at least I think they are having never kept them before. I'm surprised at how active they are, I expeced them to go into hiding for at least the first few days... Well, I've lurked on the list for a week or two, the level of discussion is good and I'm eager to hear any comments on my initial foray... Thanks, Peter Davis ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@majordomo.pobox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@majordomo.pobox.com. Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!