>How big is your 'community ' tank? Sometimes fish will spawn, and then eat >their fry at the wriggler stage because they don't feel secure enough to >raise the kids. All kinds of animals will do this. They don't want to >waste their energy and food stores on what they 'feel' is a hopeless >situation. It sounds like your fish have spawned for sure. Do you have >anywhere else that you can put their competitors? Once the female has her >fry out free-swimming you may even have to pull the male. Sometimes, and it >doesn't even depend on the size of the tank, the female will get ready to >spawn again when the fry are only about four weeks old. Then, before you >get a chance to do anything about it, she'll eat the fry and spawn again. >If you take the male out, she'll usually look after them for a couple more >weeks than usual, but because she does not have a male to spawn with again, >she won't perceive the fry as competitors to her next batch, and she'll >leave them alone. the tank is a well-planted 55g, with the aforementioned apistos, and a mixed school of cardinal, loreto and bloodfin tetras, plus a cory (whos too big to even get under the saucers. fat little bugger.), a pleco, and an sae (who seems to like live food better than algae...) im working on getting some more smaller tanks up and running, just in case, but i cant always have the amount of tanks id like to on my paycheck... ive got a 30g waiting to have a stand built for it (whichll double the available space for small tanks - right now ive got 4 10s, only one of which is unoccupied, and space for 2 more... the new stand will have room for another 6 10s...) - id love to have 3-4 tanks just sitting around set up and ready to accept a female with fry, but thats somewhere down the line... >Some people like to keep dither fish around so that at least for a while the >male is busy defending the territory against relatively innocuous fish. I >have found however, that even supposed non-threatening fish like Neon >Tetras or White Cloud Mountain fish will take advantage of any fry that >strays a few inches from it's mother. For this reason, I keep moms alone >with their fry if I want to have a large survival rate. right now, im not really all that concerned with a large survival rate... id be happy with an actual spawn, and some surviving young... im inexperienced at this, though, and whatever experience i can gain out of this is fine by me for now... im having a heck of a lot of fun simply keeping the apistos ive got - a spawn right now would be sort of a surprise bonus :) -joel ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@majordomo.pobox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@majordomo.pobox.com. Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!