Just a quick note on the issue of, multi-generational groups. I've been told that the Apisto. eunotus (excuse my spelling) will in fact allow multi generations. That is the only non-African that I know about, but there may well be others. What do you Fisheads know about other, multi-generational or colonizing fish. Bill Hickman Mascoutah, IL. -----Original Message----- From: alex pastor <alexp@idirect.com> To: apisto@pudge.listbox.com <apisto@pudge.listbox.com> Date: Friday, February 19, 1999 12:13 AM Subject: Re: well if its not one its the other... A. uaupesi "red-wedge" >How big is your 'community ' tank? Sometimes fish will spawn, and then eat >their fry at the wriggler stage because they don't feel secure enough to >raise the kids. All kinds of animals will do this. They don't want to >waste their energy and food stores on what they 'feel' is a hopeless >situation. It sounds like your fish have spawned for sure. Do you have >anywhere else that you can put their competitors? Once the female has her >fry out free-swimming you may even have to pull the male. Sometimes, and it >doesn't even depend on the size of the tank, the female will get ready to >spawn again when the fry are only about four weeks old. Then, before you >get a chance to do anything about it, she'll eat the fry and spawn again. >If you take the male out, she'll usually look after them for a couple more >weeks than usual, but because she does not have a male to spawn with again, >she won't perceive the fry as competitors to her next batch, and she'll >leave them alone. > >It's really sad to see females gobble up their fry. They are so used to >coming up to her for safety under usual circimstances, they know no better, >and get eaten. > >The only fish that I know of who stay in multi-generational groups are Kribs >and Lamp. brichardi. With the brichardis, the older brothers and sisters >even look after the younger ones. There may be a few other African species >that do the same thing also, but definitely not Apistos. > >Some people like to keep dither fish around so that at least for a while the >male is busy defending the territory against relatively innocuous fish. I >have found however, that even supposed non-threatening fish like Neon >Tetras or White Cloud Mountain fish will take advantage of any fry that >strays a few inches from it's mother. For this reason, I keep moms alone >with their fry if I want to have a large survival rate. > >g. kadar > > > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------- >This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@majordomo.pobox.com. >For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, >email apisto-request@majordomo.pobox.com. >Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"! > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@majordomo.pobox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@majordomo.pobox.com. Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!