> Is there a different between the subocellatus Matadi and subocellatus Matadi > Black, or is it the same fish?? Could be wrong but I think they will be the same fish. The black may refer to the blackened colouration females take on when the mood takes them. Ken. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@majordomo.pobox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@majordomo.pobox.com. Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!