In a message dated 2/20/99 4:24:37 PM Mountain Standard Time, mgaber@erols.com writes: > is soaking and boiling > necessary, as is the case with driftwood? I would recommend doing it with any piece of wood, both for sterility reasons and for bouyancy reasons. If you boil it, you kill virtually every pathogen known. If you boile it, it expands the air inside the wood, driving much of it out. Let it soak as it cools, and the contracting remnant will be supplemented with water, rather than replacement air, reducing the time needed to get it to sink. I used a piece of choya wood to receive some Bolbitis fern a couple days ago. I boiled it for ten minutes, ran cold water into the pot, let it soak, and tied on the fern. I stuck a small rock on it overnight, and now it is already willing to stay down wiithout the weight, after ony two days. Bob Dixon ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@majordomo.pobox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@majordomo.pobox.com. Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!