> > So, my questions are: 1. do juvenile hongsloi look > like rotpunkt? If so, is there a good way to tell > them apart? After looking at a lot of pictures it > looks to me that I could differentiate the norberti > from the agassizi by looking for a black mark covering > the first few rays of the dorsal fin. Do you think > that would work? Lastly, at what length does agassizi > start to show sexual dimorphism? > Hi Paul I haven't bred hongsloi so I'm not really qualified to answer this, just qualified guessing - the lateral band in rotpunkt is more zig-zagged than hongsloi who has a more even/solid band. Norberti show the abdominal stripes caracteristic of cacatuoides-group-species very early They also have a series of spots on the base of their dorsal fin which the agas lack. The lateral band of agassizii seems narrower than norberti, as well as sharper. If they are juveniles (>1") these distinctions should be quite clear. You should be able to sex agas from 1-1.5 in TL. Fredrik L. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@majordomo.pobox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@majordomo.pobox.com. Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!