I bought a male cacatoides recently in order to not have too much inbreeding in my stock. I put him in a 30 gallon with a ripe female and 6 neons as dithers. Initially, he was just plain nasty to the female. (Maybe he'll settle down.) Then one day the female disappeared. She'd barricaded herself into the coconut shell. So, I thought they'd spawned. Periodically she would come out, tail flap him, take a run at the neons, and go back into her shell. That was on friday. She wasn't yellow and he was not being nasty. Today, Sunday, I took a good look at what was now happening. She came out of the shell, and he went in. You guessed it - nothing in there! And he was harassing her (but not like Bill Clinton). So, I pulled him out. I was wondering what to do with this creature. Should I relegate him to the guppy tank? So, I put him in another 30 gallon that has a ripe female, 6 dwarf Gouramis and 4 juvenile cacatoides. Right now it's "stand off time at the O.K. Corral" - all the fish have assumed a posture of suspended animation. There are a lot of Utah rocks in there, and plenty of hiding places for everyone in case all hell breaks loose. But I don't need to see violence. The manager at the lfs thinks that this fish may have been originally imported from Germany via a Montreal wholesaler. If this fish was a nasty SOB with potential wife #1, is he a hopeless candidate for wife #2? Does this guy have a personality disorder? I have yet to see a male cacatoides act like such a jerk. Thankfully the manager told me that I can bring him back, so at least he won't be imprisoned with guppies for the rest of his natural life. G. Kadar ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@majordomo.pobox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@majordomo.pobox.com. Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!