Hi Ken. I just started breeding A.hongsloi this past year I have color forms I and II. I have found them to spawn quite readily in water with a Ph of 4.8 a GH of less then 1 with about 30 microsiemens and KH 0. My hatch rates have been superb and all my females have tended their young for at least a month in this water. You can of course see what the outer limits of their tolerance is as far water parameters but this is what has worked for me, and quite succesfuly I might add. I might also add that the female is rather tolerant of her mate after spawning and in an aquarium with enough space he can easily be observed patroling his vast territory from any intruders. Good luck Ken. == David Sanchez Casselberry, FL http://www.mindspring.com/~barbax barbax2@yahoo.com _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@majordomo.pobox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@majordomo.pobox.com. Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!