Mike Downey and all, Mike, the Pelvicachromis pulcher "red" fish that you gave me finally spawned. The first spawn was huge, well over a hundred fry! Both parents are doing great taking care of the huge mob. I've finally noticed the beautiful red coloring. I had raised them in a tank with white silica sand substrate and this bleached out their coloring. About two months ago, I pulled a male and female and put them in a ten gallon tank with black sand to see if they would change their coloring some. I pretty much forgot about them. Saturday, I was really cleaning up the fish room and decided to give these guys a good "inspection". I was shocked to see these two beautiful fish hearding all these babies. I hope they grow up as pretty as mom and pop. Michael P.S. Those damn P. taeniatus "wouri" won't quit spawning either! Oh well, guess I'll suffer! ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@majordomo.pobox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@majordomo.pobox.com. Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!