the hippolytae have been quite territorial and with 3 > in a 20 gallon I > have had to add more bogwood and obstacles to prevent > one male from > beating up everyone in the tank. > I can attest to this also Kathy! My wild hippoltae are rather pugnacious as well. I have observed two females in particuler stake out some territory and chase all who dare come near. I have a couple males that are fighting over the limits of their territories as well. I hope to have a spwning report very soon. Perhaps we can compare notes. I have them in a 30 gallon tank with lots of flower pots and coconut shells. By the way the two females are beginning to get a very nice yellow color and the fin tips seem to gleam as well. My males look awesome! As Mike Wise said they can indeed be very attractive given the proper conditions. The males have a yellow scheen to them with nice golden amber highlights along the lateral line and lateral spot. The abdominal area has some realy nice turqouise color as well. I am using very soft acidic water and I think this is realy bringing out their splendor. Good luck to you with yours. === David Sanchez Casselberry, FL http://www.mindspring.com/~barbax barbax2@yahoo.com _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@majordomo.pobox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@majordomo.pobox.com. Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!