Hi guys. Well I knew would it be soon by the behavior I had been observing the last few days but my A.hippolytae have made me very happy with the recent discovery of two newly laid bathces of eggs. I am very happy with my source of wild Apisto's as most of them are spawning within a couple of weeks. The water was "black water" Ph 4.2, 0 DH, less then 20 microsiemans, 0 KH and a temperture of 76 F. The water was further treated with peatmoss to give it the nice amber color and to arrive at the above values. The environment was a 30 gallon long with a mixed population of Apisto's including A.pertensis, A.gephyra, and the A.hippolytae. The bottom was covered with a thin layer of sand and consisted of a heavy concentration of flower pots and coconut shells. Their was only a slight current provided by a giant sponge filters air lift. The spawning act was observed early in the morning at about an hour after daybreak( My Apisto's are receiving natural daylight, hey I'm in Florida) It appeared that the female had staked out a spawning site and she alerted the male to her readiness as can be deduced by the defence of the cave for several days by the female. In all I estimate about 150 eggs roughly for both spawns. Intrestingly the female can be seen defending the immediate perimeter around the cave from allintruders and not the inside of the cave as much. She is a very attentive mother and can be seen pulverizing any fish that dare come close to her cave! I have removed one of the females with her spawn to a ten gallon tank to ensure I get some fry, the other female I have left in the tank so that I may observe and learn more about their behavior. Well thats it for now I will keep you informed on how things go. Good luck to you also Greg and Kathy with your A.hippolytae. === David Sanchez Casselberry, FL http://www.mindspring.com/~barbax barbax2@yahoo.com _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@majordomo.pobox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@majordomo.pobox.com. Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!