What advantage is there to leaving the male borelli in the tank after spawning? Any interesting behavior? Right now he seems to want to place the maximum distance between himself and the female. I haven't been concerned about the cyclops even I have heard they eat baby fish. It just didn't seem possible. They are so small. However I did notice a small beetle larva this morning and will try to get that one out. Dragonfly larva don't make it into the tank (that I have noticed) because of the way my live food tank is setup. I collect the wild food from the woods and place them in a 5 gallon tank on the kitchen counter. I put a light at one end and it attracts most of the insect larva to that end of the tank. I then net out the swimming stuff, mostly mosquito larva, daphnia and cyclops from that end. This leaves the dragonfly larva and baby crawfish crawling amongst the leaves. Also at just the edge of visibility are little creatures when magnified are vase-like with a flagellum at the narrow end and have bristles around the wide end. I think these are rotifers. The things I thought were volvox upon magnification look like a sphere of little spheres, kinda like a blastula. Each of the little sub-spheres is connected to the center with a thin projection. On the outside the little subspheres have mouths that are constantly opening and closing like they are filtering water. Sometimes a 'rotifer' will rest on one of these and then swim off. I need to get some sort of textbook and pin down what some of this stuff is. Watching the fish food is nearly as entertaining as watching the fish. Daniel Harnden ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@majordomo.pobox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@majordomo.pobox.com. Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!