Gary, To expand on Helen's reply: She was using my species list where I place A. sp. Tucuruí, hesitantly, in the resticulosa-complex. It definitely is a regani-group species because it is an ancestral species (full set of 4 infraorbital pore) with minimal sexual dimorphism, a low, even, dorsal fin, round tail, and no lateral spot. Placing it into one of the complexes (sub-groups) within the regani-group is more problematical because its unique pattern of dark markings really does not fit any of them. There smaller size (5 - 6 cm / 2 - 2 ¼"), slightly more elongate body, and to a lesser extent the blue wash on the dorsal & anal fins are more reminiscent of members of the resticulosa complex. Since these species-groups/complexes are descriptive (used only for visual identification) it doesn't matter really which complex they are put in since their pattern of spots is so easy to recognize. If you are interested in their biological complex (phylogenetic placement in relation to other apisto species) that is a question to which I would hesitate to give a definitive answer. I would just leave it in the regani-group and not try to place it in a biological species-complex (sensu Linke & Staeck). Mike Wise Frauley/Elson wrote: > Hello, > where does Apistogramma sp. Turucui fit in relation to other apistos? > Which group would it be placed in? > -Gary > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@majordomo.pobox.com. > For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, > email apisto-request@majordomo.pobox.com. > Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"! ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@majordomo.pobox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@majordomo.pobox.com. Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!