I finally saw some of the fry I suspected that were there. I knew they had to be there because of the way the female stayed in the cave except to chase the male. They weren't free swimming. They were just clinging to side of the interior of the cave. What behavior can I expect from the male? Is he there just to give the female something to chase? Is he likely to eat the babies? He couldn't be too hungry he has all the mosquito larva he wants to eat (and I got a few mosquitos in the house). Daniel Harnden ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@majordomo.pobox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@majordomo.pobox.com. Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!