Hi Just got a pair of Pelvicachrmis taeniatus Kienke last night (Thanks John) What is a good PH , water hardness and temp. to get them to spawn ? Thanks George ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@majordomo.pobox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@majordomo.pobox.com. Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!