When I had "the problem" with the worms, I did some research and it seems they need another host(s). If you read my letter from the other day, you'll find out that none of my other fish have come down with the worms, neither did any of the fry from the two spawnings by the infected parents. G. Kadar ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@majordomo.pobox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@majordomo.pobox.com. Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!