okeydoke, i know i need to get them out, just waiting till i get another tank cleared of convict fry (29gallon, going to put the kribs in there) and right now everyone is in a 75 gallon. There is only one convict but he has gotten big. I forgot, i also have 4 biotodoma cupido in there. kym -----Original Message----- From: John Wubbolt <BigJohnW@webtv.net> To: apisto@admin.listbox.com <apisto@admin.listbox.com> Date: Saturday, April 17, 1999 12:05 AM Subject: Re: Re: First off, if your Altispinosa's are of age. They are not going to spawn with Kribs and Convicts in the same tank. Also get that large pleco out too. Once you have just the 5 altispinosa's in the tank by themselves, you should see some activity. Your water parameters sound fine, but you never mentioned what size tank? Try moving everything out and see what happens. John ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@majordomo.pobox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@majordomo.pobox.com. Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"! ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@majordomo.pobox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@majordomo.pobox.com. Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!