Mike, I am confused about the vertical rows of spots on the tails. My fish don't have these (at least I have not noticed any). However, if memory serves, the pictures of A. cruzi in Mayland and Bork and possibly Aqualog do have these. I know these books are known to be somewhat less than accurate as far species identification but I remember thinking as I was reading Mayland and Bork that the vertical rows of spots on the tails of the A. cruzi were the one obvious difference between my fish and the pictures. I wonder if the fish in Mayland and Bork are not A. cruzi. I will haved to look at them again when I get home from work. Paul Evans --- Mike & Diane Wise <apistowise@bewellnet.com> wrote: > Yes, it is close to both A. eunotus & A. cruzi. At > normal Rio Tahuayo water > conditions (pH<6 and very soft) the male's body is > almost entirely blue. Unlike > A. cruzi, the tail of the male shows a series of > vertical rows of spots > (sometimes very faint). A. eunotus shows a split in > Bar 6 below the lateral band. > A. sp. Rio Tahuayo doesn't show this split. > > Mike Wise > > Paul Evans wrote: > > > This sounds very similar to the A. cruzi that > > I have. Orange caudal, abdominal stripes, orange > > pectoral spot, very long dorsal, anal, and ventral > > fins. The body has obvious blue sheen with some > > scales very bright blue. I would not call it a > > bright blue over all. I have been keeping them in > > water that is near neutral (slightly over to > slightly > > under depending on the plants using the CO2 I am > > injecting). They spawned in water that was ph > 6.8, > > KH=2, GH=1. > > > > Paul > > > > --- Vern Wensley <vernwen@home.com> wrote: > > > I forgot to mention that they have abdominal > > > stripes. > > > Vern > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Vern Wensley <vernwen@home.com> > > > To: apisto - digest <apisto@listbox.com> > > > Date: April 28, 1999 7:37 AM > > > Subject: Re colorful apistos > > > > > > > > > >Hi Mike,I have a fish here that looks like the > > > description you gave of > > > >A.sp.Rio Tahuayo.Orange caudal,blue body and it > has > > > a orange pecteral > > > >spot,like eunotus.Are the anal and dorsal fins > long > > > on the rio tahuayo?When > > > >I first got them I thought they were a very > > > colorful eunotus fish.I put > > > them > > > >in my dicrossus tank,ph below 5,and they turned > a > > > very beautiful blue,then > > > I > > > >moved them to another tank where the ph was > around > > > 6 and they lost alot of > > > >the blue.Whatever I have they are a beautiful > fish. > > > >Vern > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > This is the apistogramma mailing list, > apisto@majordomo.pobox.com. > > For instructions on how to subscribe or > unsubscribe or get help, > > email apisto-request@majordomo.pobox.com. > > Search http://altavista.digital.com for > "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"! > <HR> <!doctype html public "-//w3c//dtd html 4.0 transitional//en"> <html> Yes, it is close to both A. eunotus & A. cruzi. At normal Rio Tahuayo water conditions (pH<6 and very soft) the male's body is almost entirely blue. Unlike A. cruzi, the tail of the male shows a series of vertical rows of spots (sometimes very faint). A. eunotus shows a split in Bar 6 below the lateral band. A. sp. Rio Tahuayo doesn't show this split. <p>Mike Wise <p>Paul Evans wrote: <blockquote TYPE=CITE>This sounds very similar to the A. cruzi that <br>I have. Orange caudal, abdominal stripes, orange <br>pectoral spot, very long dorsal, anal, and ventral <br>fins. The body has obvious blue sheen with some <br>scales very bright blue. I would not call it a <br>bright blue over all. I have been keeping them in <br>water that is near neutral (slightly over to slightly <br>under depending on the plants using the CO2 I am <br>injecting). They spawned in water that was ph 6.8, <br>KH=2, GH=1. <p>Paul <p>--- Vern Wensley <vernwen@home.com> wrote: <br>> I forgot to mention that they have abdominal <br>> stripes. <br>> Vern <br>> -----Original Message----- <br>> From: Vern Wensley <vernwen@home.com> <br>> To: apisto - digest <apisto@listbox.com> <br>> Date: April 28, 1999 7:37 AM <br>> Subject: Re colorful apistos <br>> <br>> <br>> >Hi Mike,I have a fish here that looks like the <br>> description you gave of <br>> >A.sp.Rio Tahuayo.Orange caudal,blue body and it has <br>> a orange pecteral <br>> >spot,like eunotus.Are the anal and dorsal fins long <br>> on the rio tahuayo?When <br>> >I first got them I thought they were a very <br>> colorful eunotus fish.I put <br>> them <br>> >in my dicrossus tank,ph below 5,and they turned a <br>> very beautiful blue,then <br>> I <br>> >moved them to another tank where the ph was around <br>> 6 and they lost alot of <br>> >the blue.Whatever I have they are a beautiful fish. <br>> >Vern <br><a href="http://mail.yahoo.com"></a> <p>------------------------------------------------------------------------- <br>This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@majordomo.pobox.com. <br>For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, <br>email apisto-request@majordomo.pobox.com. <br>Search <a href="http://altavista.digital.com">http://altavista.digital.com</a> for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!</blockquote> </html> _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? 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