Apisto Folks.........let's look at what I said... "Vern........I'll tell you this Vern. I would be embarrased to tell you how much money I've spent believing people who say they have the REAL A. viejita II..............none of them do except Julio Melgar. His are really SUPER and they are healthy and ready to spawn....Do yourself a favor give Julio a holler... http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/jsmelgar/ I got some young ones (A. viejita II.....just sexable) from him about 3 weeks ago and I have fry already......that's how healthy his fish are!" In answering a legit question from someone I mentioned no one's name....but I too have been chasing the A. veij. II for quite some time (2 yrs.)...and felt much like Vern did in asking that question, and have asked that very question myself to a dozen people........then, spending quite a lot of money believing quite a number of people.....I merely wanted to tell someone, and make light of myself at the same time, of the problems and the money spent involved in finding that fish.......so I pushed Julio's fish. No harm intended or indeed I would have mentioned names! As a matter of fact.......I still buy from a guy who sold me some A. viejita II that were absolutly terrible.......and both of us laugh at the stiuation now! It wasn't earth shattering then nor is it now......that fish (A. viejita II) as, most people picture, I, I say I, have found most difficult to find. David.....for some reason feels that everything I say is aimed at him......don't flatter yourself. The second comment was AFTER he jumped me however! Apisto list...let me see how I have "sucked up" to Julio. In the past oh say 2 years I have been responsible for buying maybe $1000-$1200 worth of apistos from Julio (not all for me). Not ONCE have I asked for ANY discount on a fish or multiple fish from Julio, nor will I .......and not ONCE has any offer of a discount been offered by Julio to me or the group I was buying for, nor should there be........if that is "sucking-up".......I am guilty. End of story! To the list at last........I ment no harm...as usual, blown out of sight. Nuff' said! I'm back to lurking... Mike Mike Jacobs Math Instructor, Center for Advanced Technologies Lakewood H.S., St Pete, Fl. mfjacobs@geocities.com mikejacobs2@tampabay.rr.com -----Original Message----- From: David Sanchez <barbax2@yahoo.com> To: apisto@majordomo.pobox.com <apisto@majordomo.pobox.com> Date: Saturday, May 15, 1999 8:11 PM Subject: Re: A.viejita >Mike I am really saddned by your behavior. We all know >your relationship with Julio and clearly your agenda >is to suck up to him and blantently promote his fish. >I have no problem with julio or his fish but your >behavior is quite inappropriate, it shows your level >of inteligence. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@majordomo.pobox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@majordomo.pobox.com. Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!