>Date: Fri, 11 Jun 1999 08:41:29 -0700 >From: Wright Huntley <huntley1@home.com> > > I haven't the foggiest what a "carbon block" is. The simple solution >is to just use some Amquel and forget it. > >That said: > >If the activated-charcoal filter cartridge is defective, the TFC membrane >will be damaged quickly, and the tds of the "RO" water will start to rise. >Using an RO unit without testing for tds (or at least dGH) is folly. >Filtering through carbon must be done *very* slowly, and with the proper >kind of charcoal, if all chloramine is to be removed. Time of contact is the >most important issue. Type of activated charcoal is important, too. Some, >like the granules sold at aquarium shops are essentially worthless. OK for >clearing dye, but ineffective on chlorine. > >Because the water tested positive for chlorine is not evidence that >chloramine is not in use. They react identically on a chlorine test. Amquel, >and not some hypo-based dechlor product is called for. I seriously doubt if >a community the size of Nashville is not on chloramine at this point. SF is >the *only* city in the US of over 500K people that does not have it, and >that is because they don't even *need* chlorine in most of the SF system. > >Small molecules like ammonia and chlorine pass through an RO membrane just >as easily as water. *No* RO unit removes them. The activated charcoal filter >should do it at normal flow rates for RO conversion. If not, a valve to >reduce flow might improve extraction. >> >From: Kelly Beard <apistogramma@home.com> >> >Last week I did a water change and lost a neon and noticed respiratory >> >stress on the hatchet fish. The cichlids seemed fine. I make water >> >change water with RO unit, trash can, and appropriate KH and GH >> >reconstituters. Irritated with the death of the last neon, I took a >> >sample of my water to the LFS. I described to him the situation, and he >> >was puzzled. On a whim, I asked if he could do a test for chlorine. He >> >said "surely not", but I insisted that something was up with this >> >water. Bingo, I was right. Ample amounts of chlorine. I found a >> >chlorine test kit today. Apparently Nashville, TN tap is just chlorine, >> >not chloramine. But, what I want to know is, why should an RO unit leak >> >chlorine? My carbon unit was brand new - but there's a twist. The >> >carbon block was purchased from Home Depot or Lowe's and is meant for >> >a home water unit. I bought the best one, something around $33, a CB-3, >> >made by Omni, I believe. The label said 99.9% of chlorine removed. >> >>From what I can tell, none is being removed. I carbon block fits tight >> >- water can't be getting around the unit. >> > >> >So, I ordered 4 carbon blocks meant for my Coralife RO unit from That >> >Fish Place, thinking that maybe the carbon block is not meant for an RO >> >unit. Maybe the flow of water is too high, or something. -- Dave Gomberg, San Francisco mailto:gomberg@wcf.com The latest in CO2 news: http://www.wcf.com/co2iron Tropica MasterGrow in the USA: http://www.wcf.com/tropica ----------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!