I'd like some opinions of setting up a breeding tank for Apistos. From what I've read here, a 30 gal long with sand and driftwood and clay flower pots and some filtration, usually a sponge filter, is used. I went to Home Depot today and went to the pool equipment section and bought a 50lb bag of pool filter sand. Before I bought it I looked at some of the sand on the ground which had fallen out of another bag. The grains looked to be large (for sand), free of any broken shell bits or anything else to affect GH or KH and overall pretty clean. The brand was Foster Dixiana. I'm thinking a 50 lb bag might not be enough, but I've not bought a tank yet, so we'll see. It's less than $5 a bag, so not a bad deal. Here are my plans: 30 gallon long, glass canopy and single tube light fixture. 2" of sand substrate 2 pieces of driftwood that will entangle each other, java moss and two clay flower pots Either a small power filter or an Eheim 2213 canister I have sitting around. A link to Foster Dixiana: http://www.fosterdixiana.com/Pages/FilterSand.html -- Kelly Beard, Cat IV (on sabbatical) President, Allanti Cycling Club Innovative Computing Corporation ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!