Hi Russell, Finally a subject that I know plenty about - Kribs are my favourite dwarfs ! I've just managed to get a pair of albinos and a pair of taeniatus ( variety unknown - see other post by me if you know what it is ) to add to my collection. Firstly - you said you had them in a 10 gallon tank and there were about 200 of them - You'll need a bigger tank ! I wouldn't go anything smaller than 30 gallon for them. Commercial growers/breeders use upwards of 75 gallons to try and speed up their growth rate ( i.e. turnover ). Krib fry grow slow enough as it is but when they are cramped together they become even slower growing, not to mention the exponential increase in the bioload in your tank. This is why you often see 'stunted' krib in many fish stores. It may be better to practice culling procedures to thin out the babies to about 50, because; 1. You are going to have to get rid of them all at some stage when they are big enough and not many places will take 200 at a time. 2. You'll get better quality fish because of reduced competition for food and space. 3. The water quality in your tank will be easier to manage. 4. Most of the babies will survive - In my last lot, I counted 51 wrigglers and I sold 50 babies 6 weeks later. 5. It won't be such a big strain on your krib parents. Spawning is a stressful event in the lives of any fish and at these times the fish may succumb to ailments that they would normally be able to ward off - so any reduction in stress level has to be good. Which brings me to the next point - the parents. Every single time I have spawned kribs the male has always been driven away after the fry have been free swimming for about 4 weeks. In one case the female was so insistent that the male vacate the premises that she killed him ! The mother is perfectly able to raise the fry ( so long as it is not 200 of them ! ) by herself and seems to prefer it this way. The male will continue to defend the young but his efforts will not be appreciated by the female and his duties will be reduced to perimeter patrol. So I'd remove him, especially in a 10 gallon tank where he'd only get in the way - my last lot were ok together in a 30 gallon and they had 50 odd fry. Hope this helps - if you'd like to know more - you can email me or visit me web site ( shown below ) to see my kribs and how I do it. Regards, Simon Voorwinde ========================================================= svavev@hunterlink.net.au http://thecichlidtank.cjb.net ========================================================= ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!