couldn't guarantee it , but i've seen that condition on tetras after the stress of a shipment. they lose their ability to eat because they can't close their mouth. I talked to someone about it and they said it was a fungus. It may be in your tank. I think that they said it is highly contagious. you might want to treat for it and that doesn't work, do a thorough cleaning of the tank and everything in it. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!