The collection trip to Venezuela was successful. Not only did we collect Apistogramma but also collected fish where they had not been described as being before. One of the Apistos we collected I cannot identify from the descriptions in my library. I wanted to report the results of each collection site to give an idea of location of collection, the water conditions, and the fish found. Although we collected from sites ranging from the Gran Sabana to the northern Delta Amacuro I will mention only those sites where we found dwarf cichlids. Near Piacoa (southern Orinoco Delta) Water: clear blackwater in small stream less than 6-12 inches deep. pH 5.4 Hardness 20 ppm Temp 29 C Apistos found among the leaf litter in very shallow water. A. hoignei A. "piacoa" - Similar to A. meinkeni but with significant differences. Also in same location leaf fish, knife fish, Rivulus deltaphilus, Haplosternum cat, and pencil fish. Along road to Piacoa N. 8 degrees 31.915 W. 62 deg 11.120 Larger blackwater stream draining from a large marsh. We had collected this area 2 years ago but the water was higher this year. Water: pH 6.7 Hardness 110 ppm Temp 30C (Last trip pH 6.4 Hardness 90 ppm) A. hoignei "Rams" - My information only describes Rams being found north of the Orinoco. Also previous descriptions describe the collection sites as being in savanah areas. This site not only is south of the Orinoco but also in a forested area. Leaf fish Pristella type characin "Moray" eel Riv. deltaphilus Aquedins sp. Morichal along road to Piacoa N. 8 deg 32.073 W. 62 deg 16.479 This was the only morichal (blackwater stream with white sand bottom) we found south of the Orinoco. Heavily forested larger stream. Water: pH 7.3 Hardness 10 ppm Temp 27 C A. hoignei Farawella Corys- We collected over a hundred on one swipe of a small seine. They could be seen swimming all over the bottom. Leaf fish Riv. deltaphilus "guppies" - Similar to Endler's livebearer Along road to Los Barrancos N. 8 deg 40.049 W. 62 deg 27.281 This is along a road north of the Orinoco. It is in savanah land and the site was a pond isolated from any stream or other water supply. Appeared to be a cattle watering site. Cloudy water. Water: pH 9.5 Hardness 50 ppm Temp 35 C !! A. hoignei Nannacara - looks like anomala - This fish if it is anomala has never been described as being in this part of Venezuela. Mike Wise advises me of a Nannacara sp. Venezuela. Leaf fish Aquedins sp. Pristella type - pink with red fins Along road between Barrancos and Tucupita N. 8 deg 47.853 W. 62 deg. 12.320 Again in savanah before entering the Delta proper. This was a shallow man made watering hole with cloudy water. Unlike the descriptions in the German dwarf cichlid books, there were no palm trees near the watering holes. Water: pH 5.8 Hardness 30 ppm Temp 33 C Rams - No other fish found. Very colorful and could be seen swimming in schools. Interestingly, these were the only fish collected that had hollow bellies. Could this be related to its isolation from black water? Rio Morichal Largo N. 8 deg. 29.754 W. 63 deg. 39.192 This is an area we had collected previously. Last visit this was a pristine blackwater stream with lots of fish life. This year there has been alot of development with new farms and cashew orchards. There was the definite smell of livestock in the water and much fewer fish. More sediment and garbage. Water: pH 5.4 Hardness 20 ppm Temp. forgot thermometer but last trip was 28 C. (Last trip pH 4.4 and hardness 10 ppm) A. guttata - much fewer and less colorful compared to last visit. Nannacarra sp. Severum Endler's livebearer Knife fish Aquedins sp. Pristella type Copella Riv. deltaphilus At the confluence of the Rio Tigre and Rio Areo near Coloradito N. 8 deg.44.689 W. 63 deg. 31.751 These are two morichals in a heavily forested greenbelt among miles of pine and eucalyptus plantations. The Rio Areo had much more sediment and smelly water and was where most of the fish were collected because of the shallower water. Rio Tigre had less sediment. Lots of bugs in this area. Water: pH 6.1 Hardness 10 ppm Temp. sorry this was the day I forgot the thermometer. No Apistos Nannacara sp. - I believe this is the furthest north and west that this genus has been collected. Knife fish Copella Riv. deltaphilus Pike Because of the length of this report, I will describe the A. "piacoa" later. Tom W. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!