I was under the impression that Rotpunkt is the same fish as red point, which is the same as species Puerto Narino and species blackseam. I have the species Puerto Narino and have bred this fish. I can't tell any of these other so called species apart from what I keep. If I'm incorrect in this, please someone who knows more tell me so. John W ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!