Bob, I've never seen A. hongsloi with caudal extension. But what they do with domestic bred fish these days who knows? If it has serrated dorsal spines, it definitely is not Rotpunkt; maybe macmasteri or viejita. Mike Wise IDMiamiBob@aol.com wrote: > For clarity and just a little better chance at nailing it down, I'll describe > a little further. The "red" is more of a translucent violet red. It starts > caudally in the peduncle, and dorsally, a similar distance down. The dorsal > rays are separated at the top, with number 3 being the longest, and slowly > getting shorter over the first ten or so after that. The dorsal and anal > fins both have extensions that reach to the rear of the pretty-much-rounded > caudal. The "zipper" lateral line is sometimes broken into six regions, > depending I think on mood, and a second set of darker spots extend along the > base of the dorsal, which are dark gray near the front, and become that > violet-red color at the back. The over-all body caste is light grey, rather > than the brownish color of many fish. So far the female seems pretty > non-descript. This fish will never be popular with the "Oh, look at this > pretty swordtail" set, but it has a certain subdued regality to it. Any > further guesses, folks? At this point, I think I am ready to stick with > hongsloi "red strokes" or maybe A sp aff hongsloi "red strokes" unless > someone thinks otherwise. > > > >From your limited description I can't say which species you have. My bet > > would be > > A. hongsloi (Rotstrich). > > > > Mike (for nomenclatural purity über alles) Wise (LOL) > > > > IDMiamiBob@aol.com wrote: > > > > > I ended up with a pair at the auction that were labeled A. sp. "red > > strokes". > > > They were in the show as well under that name. Does "red strokes" > > translate > > > out in German to "rotpunkt", or is this a different fish? It has the > > > "zipper" on the lateral line and a subdued red in the unpaired fins. It > > is > > > redder in my tank than it was in Detroit. > > > > > > Bob Dixon > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. > For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, > email apisto-request@listbox.com. > Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"! ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!