Andrew,My breeders have a wide and very prominent lateral line,very blue in the body and ventrals with very little or no black in the dorsal,hints of orange and blue though.Huge spikes!!Maybe you dont have mamore. Vern ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!