I recently obtained a young pair of A. cacatuoides "orange flash". The male's anal and caudal fins are almost 35% longer than on my "triple reds". The forward part of the dorsal appears normal, but the rear tip also extends a greater distance back than normal. Has anyone out there ever seen a veil-tail cacatuiodes? Bob Dixon ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!