Thanks for the feedback. I feel better now. At the LFS where I bought the fish, it's better to catch them when the fish first come in. They're usually healthy when they get them in, but they don't always stay that way after they have been in the store tanks a few days. If I took the fish back, I'd have to wait till they got another batch in before I could replace him. When I got these, they were in a tank w/ Oscars twice their size. They won't last long in there anyway! Sherry ----- Original Message ----- From: <IDMiamiBob@aol.com> To: <apisto@admin.listbox.com> Sent: Friday, August 27, 1999 11:55 PM Subject: Re: Typical M. Ramirezi & Gold Ram : Sherry writes: : : > I saw some Rams (M. Ramirezi) at my LFS today. I asked the salesperson to : > bag up four of them for me. Once I got home, I realized I had gotten only : > three regular Rams, and one Gold Ram. My questions are: : > Will the two types inter-breed? : : Yes : : Am I right in assuming the Gold Ram : > is just a color variation? : : Yes. It is a captive bred variation that does not occur in the wild, or at : least does not survive in the wild. : : > Is it acceptable to cross breed these two types? : : Depends on who you ask, but generally, yes. : : > Will it lead to a : > weakened coloration of the regular type of Rams in the fry? : : Depending on the dominance issues of the color genes the first generation : will be either all blue or all gold. I would suspect all blue. Breeding of : siblings should give a 75/25 ratio. : : > I hate to have to bag the Gold Ram up and take it back to the store if I : > don't have too. Please advise. : : Considering that 99% of the gold rams in the LFSs are from Asia, you can bet : it is a male. The best way to succeed in breeding the golds is by crossing : with a wild form (blue), and then breeding back to get the gold. Do as you : like. If someone has a problem with it, tell him/her where to get off. They : are the same species, and the gold has no wild population purity to protect. : : Bob Dixon : : : ------------------------------------------------------------------------- : This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. : For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, : email apisto-request@listbox.com. : Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"! : ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!